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Michael Schmidt-Edinger's avatar

Enlightenment is the natural state of life, after you have stripped away the unnatural, heavy, and dark states of existence. There is a realm of experience that cannot be described in words. Any attempt to describe it necessarily remains behind actual experience. Nevertheless, we all try to describe enlightenment in words, as this is the only form of communication available to us. But we must know that words themselves cannot be the source of enlightenment. Words can only express experience after the experience has occurred. They cannot create experience. Words do not produce enlightenment. Reading this here will not bring you to enlightenment.

Enlightenment is also not produced by understanding. Understanding only serves to calculate the possibilities of survival. You will never experience enlightenment as a result of your understanding.

Edwin's avatar

I dont understand step 2 in this proces at all. You say observe without judgement, but only observe everything and then ask yourself why you're so selfish. I mean? come on, saying you're selfish is judging yourself. You cannot ask this question and then observe without judging. Your question is a judgement :-) Your observing from judgement and therefor not just observing anymore, but judging everything as being selfish or not selfish and then asking why you're doing this bad thing.

Seems like your lying to yourself. Just pretending ;-)

As soon there is a goal, you create good and bad. You create judgement and are observing with judgement by dividing things in good and bad. You concluded you're acting selfish and dont want to be selfish anymore. Your goal is "realization". In my observation when people do this they automatically fall in to the trap of step 3 and start pretending. Because your goal is not to be selfish anymore, you're in fact doing self-improvement.

I like your step 3 and understand what you're saying. I dont agree with the language , but that's not that important. (because many changes in behavior or breaking patterns, having discipline to not repeat old patterns feels like effort. But i understand in reality it is about learning to loose the effort, so i understand the paradox. Same as trying to change yourself. You're always stuck in the paradox of trying to change yourself without changing yourself :-)

I think a better approach could be to observe why certain behavior is not working. Judging it as selfish is not helpful, because then you're judging yourself, your identity and will try to improve yourself, to improve within your identity. You may say this is selfish behavior, but that doesnt explain why it's not working. For many people being selfish works. Also it's even possible to argue that every behavior is selfish. So the goal of not being selfish then becomes impossible and the truth is you have to accept the fact that your selfish :-)

if your certain behavior, way of life, is not working. Then you can search for why it's not working. Whats the truth about my life why it doesnt work? Than you maybey observe it's because you believe you need something. Because your fear life without it. Then you can learn this fear is just a story and not true (an illusion).

Then you take away the reason of being selfish (believing you need something), without the preconceived goal of improving oneself of not being selfish. Or because you believe being selfish is bad. I hope that makes sense? Because in my observation this small distinction is actually very important in the search for truth.

Because in the first you're not looking for truth, you're looking to improve yourself by being a better person by not being selfish anymore. Your motivation is rejection. Rejection of who you are, namely "selfish". (which most of the time is part of an identity)

Saying to observe without judgment why you're selfish, is actually just pretending. So step 2 is just pretending to observe without judgement. Something you rightfully warn for not to do in step 3 :-)

Giotto De Filippi's avatar

I think you have a point, and I may have to reword the chapter a little. By judging, I mean condemnation, as in moral condemnation. However, judgment can also be understood as an assessment—for example, observing that you are selfish.

In the case of assessment, it would be: I observe that I am selfish, which is an objective fact—for example, I do not share anything with anyone. In the case of condemnation, I observe that I am selfish and conclude that there is something wrong with me, that I am a bad person.

So observing without judging simply means observing without condemning yourself.

Edwin's avatar

mmm, isnt selfish a condemnation in itself? For example if you dont share anything, that would be an observation. By calling it selfish, you're morally condemning that behavior already. I dont think in how the word selfish is used you can use it as an objective fact.

Also because it will always be an opinion. Some people might find some things selfish, while others dont. Or argue that all behavior is selfish. (then it has no real meaning and you're just condemning all behavior :-)

Wouldn't be the better approach be: "im not sharing anything with anyone" and this behavior is causing me trouble. Why do i do this?

Giotto De Filippi's avatar

What “selfish” is is a matter of definition: it can simply mean not sharing, or it can imply moral condemnation. Just like with the word “blue,” it can refer to dark blue or light blue. When it comes to judgment, the key difference is whether you believe there is something intrinsically wrong with you for being selfish.

Edwin's avatar

Well the thing is Selfish has a definition: "concerned excessively or exclusively with oneself : seeking or concentrating on one's own advantage, pleasure, or well-being without regard for others"

So i would say like 99% of the people will see it as a condemnation.

Peter Eastman's avatar

Regret this is just more New Age guff; spiritual insight can only begin with asking the right questioning - eg 'what is the ultimate meaning & purpose of existence itself?' - not life hacks involving 'perfecting myself' one way or the other, with ideas about 'change' & 'authenticity' etc. Start with the totality of experiential existence, not just aspects of it; hard work? Yes which is why almost all talk about spirituality is so facile.

Giotto De Filippi's avatar

Before asking any question you have to remove the assumptions, like for example why are you assuming there has to be a meaning and a purpose to things?

Peter Eastman's avatar

No assumption made; it’s about clarifying the direction of travel; you have to start somewhere; if the questioning is unproductive it can be disregarded, but ‘meaning & purpose’ questioning is infinitely more demanding & penetrating & clarifiying than ‘how can I be the best me, full of love & mindfulness & divine goodness?’

Giotto De Filippi's avatar

Why are you assuming that there is travel and that there is a starting point? I fully agree however that the question you provide as example is pointless

Peter Eastman's avatar

The intellect is the only - rpt only - tool we have to approach ultimate questions; if we disregard its workings, we become as the self-validating gurus on YouTube. We start somewhere & we try to get somewhere else, more insightful; if someone thinks they can skip the hard observational thought involved, let them tell us which ‘organ’ or ‘realm of insight’ they are deploying to decide this.

Giotto De Filippi's avatar

Why would anyone in their right mind disregard the intellect?

Peter Eastman's avatar

Then surely it has revealed to you by now (if you’re interested in insight) that the self/Self is but one miniscule angle on experience & of no more significance than a passing (forgotten) thought, & that life hacking the self/Self - with authenticity & all the rest of it, including ‘no bs’ - is not of any importance?

Roarty Vee's avatar

Question— who is the “I” doing all the stuff ?

Giotto De Filippi's avatar

I guess it's you 🙂

However knowing the ultimate nature of this you is an entirely different question 🙂

fikiru abdisa's avatar

Basically being enlightenment or conscientiousness person is good? No. now period being or trying enlightenment is being enemy with now generation at all but being false and conjuration man is good!by trying to being enlightenment you will be out of social services,out of freinds ,out of competition and out of community because i does not support others to try enlightenment! .instead we need bilateral and mutual stupidity

Kim Tengler's avatar

Wow, and it was sent at 1:11. Whenever, I see that number, I know I have approval from God and Im on the right path. Thank you Jesus!

Kim Tengler's avatar

This article is truth. I have not heard this method. I like it a lot. I can tell when people change.. for myself, I do know once I understand a situation in a different way, I've changed. For at least 45 yrs, I've always attributed my changes duevto my relationship with Christ. I've had so many, many tough times. When Im experiencing it, I'd think about the situation and its always in prayer. As I relax and dwell on it, I see the situation in a different way. With that new knowledge, I've always thought of it as my answer. I no longer have the pain I was in, because I never saw it that way before. For me, god always shows me the answer and Im changed. He gives me His wisdom.

Third-Program's avatar

Wait, is this Giotto from Viagogo and Skype?

Third-Program's avatar

Crypto was obviously the perfect home for you, but the spirituality was a shock. Are you planning to tokenize consciousness?

Giotto De Filippi's avatar

Enlightenment is not spirituality, spirituality is an attempt to build a structured view of the world whereas enlightenment is about removing some stories we tell ourselves about ourselves and reality.

Third-Program's avatar

This is Martin, also from Viagogo and Skype. How the fuck are you? So bizarre that you came into my feed.

Giotto De Filippi's avatar

I'm good, seems the world is a small place after all